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Is Radio’s Non-Music “Content” NOT “Content” Online?

It’s common to say that radio is in the content business – because obviously we are.

And in the digital arena, traffic is the primary measure of the popularity of that content.

What most folks in radio don’t know is that nearly half of all web traffic happens on peer-to-peer (P2P) networks – that’s the place where fans share music and movies.

Now radio stations spawn a lot of content – some of it available in mp3 files and podcasts. But have you ever tried to look up your favorite morning show on a P2P network to see what, if any, of their content resides there?

I have, and the results come up way short. There’s very little authentic content from even the best known morning shows (with the possible exception of a certain “Howard Stern”).

Why is this, and what does it mean?

P2P content is shared content. And shared content is content that I or you save. When you don’t find your radio station’s non-music content on a P2P network that means it’s generally not saved in folders which are open to sharing, which is another way of saying there’s little interest in sharing it in the first place.

Now granted, a morning show interview with a music star or a comedy bit is in a different category than, say, your favorite song (the former you want to hear once, the latter many times) or a movie that has yet to hit DVD.

And I know you might argue that P2P is driven largely by the sharing of illegal content, but you can find plenty of free TV shows on there, why not free radio shows? Sure there’s a bunch of Howard Stern and NPR content there, but where’s your “content”?

Could the relative absence of commercial radio non-music content from P2P networks suggest that what we consider content is not easily labeled as such for the audience – that passively-experienced “content” is something altogether different from the kind of content one seeks out and shares online?

Is there a market for the entire podcast of your morning show from February 11, 2008 (for example)? Or is that morning’s show so much like every other morning’s show that the value of any one episode is diminished and not worth sharing or seeking out?

And how do you label such a show, anyway? I may want to find Howard Stern’s interview with Pamela Anderson, but not “Howard Stern’s show from February 11, 2008.” If I can experience a show every day only the hardiest of fans will seek out those episodes which are lost. It’s the scarcity of a show which helps makes it special and valuable and sharable (a TV series only has twenty-some episodes a season, if that. A song is one-of-a-kind).

What I’m getting at is that a lot of what passes for non-music audio “content” on radio does not pass for “content” online, or at least not the kind of content worth saving and sharing – which is a pretty good indication of value.

Is radio’s non-music content comparatively disposable, like an old newscast? And what does that mean for the value of that content in a digital world?

And is this a problem that haunts all podcasts, not just the ones radio makes?

In the digital world, people like what they share and share what they like (hence the reason why “hits” are shared in abundance).

And on the Internet, that which isn’t shared risks becoming invisible.

What do you think?

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  • Hi Marc,
    Fascinating blog entries as ever.
    Just a quick thought on the P2P situation. If a radio station forces listeners to enjoy it's online audio in propriatory players, or as flash files within the website, then it becomes much more difficult to get onto a P2P network. I appreciate stations' wishes to keep listeners on their site, but I fear this is cutting off their nose to spite their face.
    If all items were supplied as downloadable MP3s as well as flash/streaming/etc, and were well labeled with ID3 tags and metadata, it'd be much easier for these files to make their way through the ether. Assuming, of course, that the content is worth listening to.
    A case in point: I really enjoy podcasts from some of the UK commercial stations (I'm a Brit living in Dallas, working for TM Studios as head of creative). However, many of them don't give you MP3 addresses. Of course, the tech savvy can find the file in their iTunes folder, but it shouldn't be about restricting users, it should be about enabling them.
    Anyway, just my 2p worth.
    Best wishes,
    Chris
    PS - On an unrelated note, which is the USA so far behind Europe and Asia when it comes to new NTR revenue streams? Have you ever heard a premium-rate text based contest in the states?
  • Just to play devil's advocate for a moment, Mark, here is an idea to ponder.
    Some conversation, talk, banter is valuable for reasons other than its intrinsic importance. We go to cocktail parties, ball games, and barbeques and make small talk with people to bond with them, not necessarily to discuss interesting or important ideas. Most talk is just meaningless chatter, but it serves an important purpose.
    Radio patter, and even interviews, can do the same for us. They make us feel comfortable. They're part of our routine. We may identify with them in a way because they remind us we're Angelenos or New Yorkers or Atlantans. They speak to us in our language. (Morning television serves the same functions and is equally devoid of content. )
    For those reasons, I would love to hear old radio shows from the sixties. A pre-downfall Humble Harve introducing the Stones singing "Goin' Home." Robert W. Morgan, The Real Done Steele, etc. talking about the latest Beach Boys song. Those shows and those DJs made me feel a part of my time and my place. But they never said anything worth saving. Not really.
    What I'm trying to say is that every show doesn't have to be unique or meaningful to have value to me, any more than each conversation I have at the water cooler has to be.
    BTW, those old newscasts are valuable too. Very important for research.
  • When you have engines like this
    http://search.everyzing.com/
    to search for content by a specific word it helps trying to find a certain thing mentioned in a podcast. The more info you know about the mention the better. Give it a try sometime.
  • George
    The one common thing about Stern and NPR is it's NATIONAL programming, and it therefore has a far greater footprint than local.
    I know everyone has convinced themselves into thinking that radio's strength is local. But local doesn't translate to the web. The web has no local. So a local DJ doing a funny and creative bit about something local has no shelf life on the net.
    Which gets back to Mark's point that your web content has to be more than just streaming your local air signal.
  • Richard
    I think there's elements of truth in some of the previous posts here. If content is not locked down there's no reason to make it available for sharing. But if people are passionate about it or believe others can't access it then people may be inclined to share. I agree that if people did share in this way then that would be a good indicator of success and IF that is the case then there is an opportunity here for radio to offer ways that listeners can say ' hey, this is really good' to other people on social, sharing or other networks.
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MRM President Mark Ramsey has worked with innumerable television and radio broadcasters over his career, including all the biggest names, from Clear Channel, CBS, Bonneville, Sirius XM...

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